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**Notes from iPad in Education Meeting at St, Andrews School, October 20, 2010**
These are the notes from my table: - Steve Taffee
 * Keys School - deciding whether or not to go 1-1 and if the iPad would be an appropriate choice.
 * Widespread agreement that the iPad can do about 90% of what a student needs to do, but will need to be supplemented with a laptop cart or lab.
 * All would like to see more textbooks on mobile devices. McGraw Hill is releasing a algebra app; more textbooks by 2012 according to Apple rep
 * There is a lack of m anagement tools for imaging, etc. Apple knows this. Third party apps are best bet for now
 * Hillbrook is piloting the iBook with 40 students
 * Questions about other i nput devices; keyboard, mouse. Can small hands be able to hold iPad for photography when that feature becomes available?
 * How to choose applications? Track applications.
 * Face it. The iPad is a s ingle user device and calls for a different model of ownership in schools.
 * With young children, some sort of filtering is needed. Check out Mobicip
 * Paradigm shift for making these personal devices even for young children. Filtering.Electronic markup of assignments
 * What is the future of open source on these devices; there is a free developers kit, but the core of the Apple distribution model is different from that of FOSS.
 * People like that when they are using their iPad in a meeting, it <span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">imparts a different feeling in meetings than a laptop with the screen barrier where I appear to hide behind my computer.
 * <span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 3em;">Is there any student response system software for iPads? HIllbrook used a simple program for students to hold up rating numbers for presentations, but data is not electronically collected.
 * <span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 3em;">Where is the critical mass for iPads in education? Do you lead or follow?
 * <span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 3em;">iPad may be more of an evolutionary device, and its use and that of similar mobile devices is a question of //when// not //if//.
 * <span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 3em;">For the price you can get a decent netbook that does more than an iPad.
 * <span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 3em;">There's of lot of excitement about the iPad which is in itself an important motivation for getting teachers and students enthused about their use.
 * <span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 3em;">Education will put a lot of demands on education for this device and it will not be as lucrative a market for Apple as the consumer market. So will Apple ever create a special iPad for ed model?
 * <span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 3em;">Scientific probes for mobile devices; ability to add other devices to supplement the mobile devices. Will these come to iPad. Rumors are that Vernier will have something within 12 mos.
 * <span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 3em;">There was a brief demo of Audionote for iPad; taking notes, annotating it, adding drawings. No speech to text or handwriting recognition
 * <span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 3em;">Could the MacBook Air eventually become a tablet? Rotate the screen, make the screen touch sensitive, you have a tablet.
 * <span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; margin: 0.5em 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 3em;">Is anyone using IOS for teaching computer science courses?

Notes from Bobby Bardenhagen, MCDS <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">(Please forgive the cryptic notation. I used the iPad since my macbook battery was dead.)

<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**Areas of usage**
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Usage outside? Screen disappears when wearing polarized sunglasses.
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> How would this work for a PE classes where teachers typically wear sunglasses.
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Consensus seems to be more geared for lower grades.
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Cart program in class
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Taking home as supplement device, but hacking/jailbreaking a concern.

<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**How to use it in the classroom?**
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Require teachers during the trial to demonstrate 2-3 apps
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Need to really work to brainstorm what apps would best suit the class/environment
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Giving teachers $75 iTunes gift card to get apps.
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> One school handed out 18 over the summer to get ideas form teachers. iPads were reluctantly handed back over the summer and 18 added and they are using set of 36 for this school year (Larry Steinke Saint Francis High School).


 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Some apps being used as a result of summer: **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Voice recorder for world language
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Story kit- Spanish teacher is using
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Notorize for taking notes
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Using drop box - all kids have an account. Teacher drops into drop box.
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Body modality - digital dissection app
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Elements - periodic table of elements
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Schools that have a SIS provided portal are finding that using drop box is easier
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> updating Wiki's from the ipad that contain homework/course information
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Pasco - coming out with Bluetooth digital microscope. View content from ipad on their desk. Syncs in with air micro pad app
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Sonic pics. - podcast app

<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**Voting Apps**
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Responsewear
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Eclicker
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Web based response systems
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Could we use this in place of promethean?
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> No mirroring of screen yet, but may be on horizon according to apple rep.
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Iannotate - digitally correct a word document.

<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**Monitoring and management**
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Lanschool as a possibility to monitor a iPad screen. There is a lite version that is free to school.

<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**One to one discussion**
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Schools that have them experience a ton of screen breakage. Mentioned hat they had no problems back in the day when they had the carts.
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Insurance program/deductible fee is in place at saint Andrews
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Also have write-ups and referrals
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> 3 year rotation on laptops, but how would this look like
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Provide a matrix of. Free open source in place of the paid version ( open office vs word)
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Always on bag
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Leave the 5th in place
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Philosophy of using multiple ways to get to a problem vs. A cookie cutter approach to getting to resources
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Citrix option of putting the processing on a server so ipads or laptops have.

<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**What grades is this suitable for?**
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Tracing apps for lower school. Prekindergarten-2 or 3

<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**What cant you do?**
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Podcasting is not done very well
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Google docs doesn't save so need to use gdocs apps (fix coming soon)
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> If everything is app based and you go access another device, you have a problem.
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Anything that runs with java or JavaScript is in question.

<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**What can you do that cant be done on a laptop?**
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Viable textbook replacement. Getting rid of the backpack?
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> St Andrews have books and an online version for all textbooks.

<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">//**Should we focus less on what we can't do and more of what we can do.**//
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Piano analogy - Why would I use this electric piano when I have spent years learning on this wonderful baby grand piano?

<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**Training**
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Very gradual training (moodle implementation at Harker as example)
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> -assignment title and description for first year, then next year uploading documents.
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Copy machine to convert docs to digital really eased the transition. Web based or email document retrieval.

<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**Google apps**
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Google apps improved login. Ability to sign in as a student

<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**IT discussion**
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Parental control software to disable various websites for take home iPads
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Mobicip. - 4.99 for the basic app.
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> With the premium you have more specific control.
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Jailbreaking is still an issue
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Using her account to wipe the iPad if offending software loaded
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Layers app - prevents student from having
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Management tools will roll out with 4.2 - printing management tools will be coming. The problem with the current os is that it is single user based.
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Folder structure coming to ipads divide up apps by classes.

<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #ff0000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Current way before 4.2 is to sync all devices on one iTunes device. YIKES!!
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> There is a corporate management software for the iphone that can be used now but not built for iPad specifically.

<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**E-books:**
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Inkling
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Apps from publishers are still limited. Teachers are making paper versions electronic by scanning and turning them into epub format.
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Ck12.org.
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Is this going to reduce the backpack weight?

<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**Apple Rep App demos**
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Audio note - note taking application timestamps and associates with audio
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Pages. Built in tutorial which is a plus (Awesome app! I could see this being used by SSS)
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Copy and paste from browser to iPhoto, if you wanted to embed in pages for example
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Google docs will have editable docs on iPad in next few weeks.

<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 14pt; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Volume licensing for multiple app purchasing (20 or more)